I urge you to think very carefully about this statement. There are more fruits of torture than just “getting information”. A success requires more than your side getting information. You must weigh both the pros and the cons. I created this, but it’s incomplete, so you’ll need to do some of your own thinking about it.

“The problem is a lot of people are viewing this as some sort of sports event. This isn’t a boxing match fought to the Queensbury rules. This is a murdering rapist whose broken into your home and will kill you, your wife, and your kids unless you stop him now. It’s not a fight for points in the ring…it’s a struggle for life in the middle of the night, rolling on the floor in your home and knocking over the furniture. If it takes beating the bastard to death with a table leg or strangling him with the phone cord then so be it. Honorable nation? Please…We were honorable BEFORE 9/11 and all it did was get our ass kicked. Whether you want to admit it or not you are in a fight for your lives. I don’t want “He died with honor.” on my tombstone. I’d prefer it said he fought to the death stopping murderers from killing his family. Better yet, I want the terrorists to have a grave….with no tombstone….they aren’t worth noting in their passing.

They poked the paper tiger–only they are finding out he isn’t made of paper. Don’t look for me to shed one damn tear watching them get mauled.”

You need to stop thinking in abstract. The enemy isnt some abstract but instead a real life for intent on murdering us…he is the barbarian at the gate. Given that scenario which rules do you advocate?

Thanks Joan and Bob for the terrific comments.

Joan of Arrgh is that 2 r’s hehe. I was sure you had a blog but for the life of me I have forgotten where I put that link…ruffles a few papers under the desk. Nope not there…

Pierre

It’s what makes you oppose the Islamofascist threat to begin with.

Don’t follow the Left into the logical maze you enter when you try to divorce your personal morality from what’s right and wrong!

Torture works, if done right. Killing someone is detrimental to the effectiveness of torture. Detainees that are dying are most likely just beligerent, malevolent, and implaccable and find themselves at the end of someone’s patience. They should’ve thought of that before engaging their enemy. They damn well’d better fear a certain sort of undefined policy about detainees! A little uncertainty is effective…

However, the enemy needs to be certain of our will to follow them into the Hell they’ve created.