Captain, Hindu Kush, the answer is?

Since 9/11 President Bush has been engaged in a cover-up in regards to Islam using the Sociologists framework of Multiculturalism to equate it to Christianity. Going along with that very dangerous idea are various right of center bloggers who don’t seem able to question anything the President does. That these bloggers wield an enormous influence over the blogsphere is tragic since in the absence of a valid opposition party in the United States we are left with a single view of our enemy. A view that increasingly shows its contradictions with each crack exposing more of the nightmare below the surface, a nightmare none of us want to face but that whether we will or not we must face.

One part of that nightmare for the Hindus is the genocide in the Hindu Kush mountains where millions of Hindus were murdered by invading Muslims. Not sure there Captain but that might be a fairly good explanation of why the Indians hate the Muslims so much. I know thats an uncomfortable thought for people like you and Hugh Hewitt but the fact remains the same. Islam has bloody borders. I attach a little piece about the terror of the Hindu Kush mountains.
However, other historians argue that there is another meaning to the “Hindu Kush,” since Indian Killer cannot be the translation because the invading Muslim Persians refer to India asHindustan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India) or “The Land of Hindus.”

There are historical implications with respect to the Islamic invasion of Hindustan. In other parts of Asia and Europe, the conquered nations quickly opted for conversion to Islam rather than death. But in India, because of the staunch resistance of the 4000 year old Hindu faith, the Muslim conquests were for the Hindus a pure struggle between life and death. Entire cities were burnt down and their populations massacred. Each successive campaign brought hundreds of thousands of victims and similar numbers were deported as slaves. Every new invader made often literally his hill of Hindu skulls. Thus the conquest of Afghanistan in the year 1000, was followed by the annihilation of the entire Hindu population there; indeed, the region is still called Hindu Kush, ‘Hindu slaughter’. The Bahmani sultans in central India, made it a rule to kill 100.000 Hindus a year. In 1399, Teimur killed 100.000 Hindus IN A SINGLE DAY, and many more on other occasions. Koenraad Elst quotes Professor K.S. Lal’s “Growth of Muslim population in India”, who writes that according to his calculations, the Hindu population decreased by 8O million between the year 1000 and 1525.
Wow I think the Indians might still be a bit pissed off about the actions of the religion of peace, Ya think? Hey Hugh Hewitt these facts uncomfortable for you?

Captain’s Quarters 5: “So why plot to attack India — a plot only subverted by the failure of the ‘courage’ of the terrorists assigned to strike it? India has a long history of Hindu-Muslim tension. Pakistan and Bangladesh owe their existence to a British partition of the Asian subcontinent when it pulled out in 1947. Ever since the split and massive relocations in the period that followed, the mainly Hindu India has disputed the borders it shares with Muslim Pakistan, which resulted in a nuclear standoff not long before 2001. Both nations claim the Kashmir province, and radicals on both sides provoked both governments into several bouts of brinksmanship.”

UPDATE: Captain responds in my comments section. To be clear I respect the work that the Captain has done tremendously. I just might be on the otherside of this issue from him though after some clarifications we might actually be closer than I think. Here is his post and my response copied from the comments section.

You completely misinterpreted my post. I understand the historical animus between Islamists and Hindus. What I’m saying is that al-Qaeda isn’t picking its targets based on Western “occupation” of Arabic lands. It’s picking targets based on their intense hatreds regardless of American actions in the area.
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I respect your blog tremendously and have for quite a long time. But since Rep Tancredo’s remarks I have begun to wonder if even on the supposedly rational right of center of blogs there isnt a bit of wishful thinking going on. Thinking that the war is merely between Al Queda and the rest of us is mistaken. There are far more players on the enemies side than one mere rather beat up terrorist organization. Shall we count all the Imams who give morale support each and everday? And what about all the madrassas funded by our “ally” Saudia Arabia the same people that President Bush literally held hands with not so long ago. I am disturbed that in the absence of a legitimate opposition party we have absolutely no means to question the view of our enemy that the Administration holds to that I believe is fatally flawed. I admit that this view might be a lot more realistic in private but then again the white glove treatment of the koran in Gitmo may show otherwise.

This is exceedingly dangerous and it is one of the reasons I absolutely welcomed Rep Tancredos remarks.

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I agree with you, however this is not the most powerful weapon. Prayer is the most powerful weapon against evil.

Would you update your link to me?
We are now at http://www.stoptheaclu.com

2. Jay on July 26th, 2005 at
Ed,

I’m glad to see you’ve joined the debate with Pierre. I offer the following which may provide some insight to the concern Pierre and I share.

Tom

How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities - but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.

Â—Sir Winston Churchill, from The River War, first edition, Vol. II, pages 248-50 (London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1899).

3. RiverRat on July 25th, 2005 at
I respect your blog tremendously and have for quite a long time. But since Rep Tancredo’s remarks I have begun to wonder if even on the supposedly rational right of center of blogs there isnt a bit of wishful thinking going on. Thinking that the war is merely between Al Queda and the rest of us is mistaken. There are far more players on the enemies side than one mere rather beat up terrorist organization. Shall we count all the Imams who give morale support each and everday? And what about all the madrassas funded by our “ally” Saudia Arabia the same people that President Bush literally held hands with not so long ago. I am disturbed that in the absence of a legitimate opposition party we have absolutely no means to question the view of our enemy that the Administration holds to that I believe is fatally flawed. I admit that this view might be a lot more realistic in private but then again the white glove treatment of the koran in Gitmo may show otherwise.

This is exceedingly dangerous and it is one of the reasons I absolutely welcomed Rep Tancredos remarks.

4. Pierre on July 25th, 2005 at
You completely misinterpreted my post. I understand the historical animus between Islamists and Hindus. What I’m saying is that al-Qaeda isn’t picking its targets based on Western “occupation” of Arabic lands. It’s picking targets based on their intense hatreds regardless of American actions in the area.

5. Captain Ed on July 25th, 2005 at
“givin the benefit of the doubt that they are all pious and everyone else is.”

this should say is not

6. Habamus Rodentum on November 30th, 1999 at
RiverRat,
That is an outdated text, the use of ‘Mohammedanism’ is rejected by Muslims because it infers worship of Mohammed, which is against Islamic law.

That being said, the hadith, the sayings attributed to the Prophet and used in legal proceedings has a quality of worship as the hadith appear to take precidence over the Quran. Organizations like al Qaeda use these outdated sayings to support their interpretations. al Qaeda is only one organization of many around the world including in N.A and Europe that have adopted the interpretations. These have also been adopted into ‘mainstream’ Islamic thought.

ObL declared Jihad on America AND Saudi Arabia because of these hadith because Saudi Arabia is supposed to be the holiest of holy cities where no infidels should reside.

Depending on the books that are imported into N.A if they are propagated you will have whole communities believing the commentators. Why? because if they don’t believe it, they don’t love Allah.

Islamic thought had its resurgence beginning with the Ayatollah Khomaeni in Iran and the sprouting of Islamist groups all over the middle-east. The propaganda against ‘infidels’ started way before Iraq. The propaganda book I have was commenced in 1992. The Iraq war is an excuse used by these imams to justify the persecution complex that many Muslims upon themselves to bind themselves together. This creates the proverbial cement to justify the ‘One Ulamah’ that is the goal of these global groups to eventually assimilate conversion to Islam.

I left my Muslim community in August of 2001, a month before 9/11. Why? the bigotry against Jews and other religions and against non-Muslim women. The attitude that is being propagated is that Islam is Perfect and every body else is impure. This is why a number of practising Muslims isolate themselves from the broader community. They do that because Islamic law, via the Quran justifies it.

The terror events are not isolated from one another or have one cause or effect. The perceptions of humiliation and degradation has fueled anti-western hatreds because the west is also equivalent to the term infidels in the Quran.

The Saudi Royal government does not have that much to do with al Qaeda. ObL, as I have mentioned previously, has declared holy war on Saudia BECAUSE of the Royal family’s ties to the U.S and because they are not looking after their own population appropriately. The poor are growing in Saudi Arabia and Muslims within the NA Salafist community has determined that, based on the growing Wahabi/Salafist following in Saudia, their interpretation of the Quran and these hadith has laws about the governing family taking care of the poor and as mentioned, no infidels should be on Saudi soil. This is simplyfying it though.

I knew members of my community, professionals like doctors or engineers,who have propagated mistrust and animosity towards Hindus, Jews and Buddhists because they believe they are oppressors of Muslims and worship differently than them. I have had to request this ‘professional’ to stop sending me his bigoted emails or I would contact the authorities. This same man, along with a physician are propagating a conspiracy theory that Israeli’s flew the jets into the world trade towers, not Muslims.

Their reasoning? They hate Jews because it’s in the Quran so they must believe it to be good Muslims. It is also propagated that all Muslims are givin the benefit of the doubt that they are all pious and everyone else is. I have also heard other conspiracy theories within the Muslim community that groups like al Qaeda were created by the CIA to make Islam look bad.

There are far too many Muslims in the world to make themselves look bad. I’m sure they don’t need the CIA to do that.

7. Habamus Rodentum on November 30th, 1999 at