The Battle for Civilization…pick your partner and dosey doe

Major updates at the bottom of this post. Have decided to move this November 6, 2005 post back up to the top of the stack because it is relevant to my linking of some more evidence regarding Islams true goals. See below for major updates.

One of the enduring puzzles of this terrible war has been the make up of our enemies. Sure it is easy to understand why the Islamists hate us and want to destroy everything associated with our civilization, we stand in stark opposition to their entire world view. Not because we are not willing to allow them to have their religion but because to practice their religion they must have the sort of total control that is best compared to Guyana and the Cult of Jim Jones (ht Pedestrian Infidel 2).

Even if we were to allow them to totally control small bits of territory inside of our countries that will not be enough, because the example of freedom will still surround them. This is absolutely unacceptable to cults since it provides a constant reminder to those who are in the cult what the normal world looks like. France has only one choice in the battle for France they must win, compromise will be just another word for losing. The Battle for Europe again hinges on the bravery of the French and whether they can win the second battle of Tours .

No amount of compromise will sate the hunger for privacy that Islam desires. They simply cannot allow their followers to witness how the other side lives. So no matter how big an area the French cede control over to the Muslim thugs, temptation will still surround the area. It was no coincidence that Jim Jones brought his cult to Guyana, the isolation from temptation, from witnesses who could declare as Salmon Rushdie has with Islam, that what the cult stands for is corrupt was essential for his cult to survive.

Jim Jones sought to find isolation knowing he could not overwhelm a large country, he sought to isolate his cult not by converting everyone to his view but by hiding from witnesses. Islam, perhaps because of the victories it gained early in its history, believes that expansion to overwhelm those who stand in stark contrast to its lifestyle is the most effective way to not only further its religion but to safeguard its followers from the sort of examples that would lead them to question their beliefs.

In that observation the reason for the alliance between the communists in this country and the Islamists made itself evident. Both Islam and the Communists work harder to keep people from leaving the “religion” than they work to keep the infidels out of the religion. Witness the Berlin Wall and the efforts the Communists went to in order to prevent witnesses from leaving, machine guns, barbed wire and a terrible secret service. Then consider how hard they worked to prevent the evidence of the outside world from penetrating the lies they told their own people. And yet with such strict control over those who left and information that came in they had absolutely standards for those who would come to them.

Both Islam and the Communists are allies against us because both of them need the same sort of world to exist in. They need a world in which United States does not provide a constant example of the failure of their philosophy. They need a world where our movies, music, books and most importantly our philosophy can no longer penetrate their lies. The Communists understand that if we defeat the threat from Islam that their hope of defeating us will vanish. They have hitched a ride onto the only group with an even remote chance of winning. Our defeat is such a fantasy of both groups that neither of them have considered what to do with the other after victory.

So then we understand the power of bringing Democracy to Iraq. We are injecting a powerful counter example into the very middle of Islam. While President Bush talks a moderate line in regards to Islam he aims a dagger straight for the heart of it. If the hypothesis that Islam is similar to a cult is correct then it is obvious that Islam cannot survive openness. President Bush quietly has brought light into the Middle East. He is a much more serious radical than even I gave him credit for.
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More reports on the Second Battle of Tours from No Pasaran

UPDATED Michelle jumps back in the game with both feet and her usual seriousness, you can bet that she isn’t sitting around worried about blaming Muslims for the Second Battle of Tours.

UPDATED November 30, 2005
Scott Burgess from the Daily Absolution does some terrific work uncovering the absurdity of Madeline Albright offering soothing words about a murderous band of terrorists known as the Muslim Brotherhood. This leads into more posts by Scott who is doing some of the best work out there regarding the threat that Islam poses to the West.

He has brought to our attention the “Plan” of the Muslim Brotherhood for the total conquest of Islam over the globe. Sounds absurd doesn’t it? But then its conceivable that most of the nutcase philosophies that have in the past seeked domination over the earth sounded a bit crazy before they really got some steam behind them. Hitler, Stalin, Mao weren’t your run of the mill next door neighbor types. Scott offers his look at the plan in two parts here and here .

Other posts of mine on the subject of Islam
Islam threatened by modernity…or not. A Response to Mr. Fukuyama
Islam never to blame…Paris Riots
The Second Battle of Tours and wishful thinking…
Paris Riots or how Nazi Germany managed to sneak up on us all!
This is a hopelessly naive view of the Second Battle of Tours

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5 Comments so far (Add 1 more)

Dear jf,

You probably owe $120K because you chose to finance your education. Just a hunch that it wasn’t economics:

“Money these days is just a figure on a banks computer. FUck it letâ€™s plump up everybodyâ€™s bank accounts and lower prices. People can remodel their homes, take vacations, do all the things that we as humans should do rather than bust our asses working and neglecting our families.”

Hmm create wealth by creating more dollars? Why that’s pure GENIUS! Except of course for the inflation and economic collapse it would cause…

Why would I take your money for a pizza when I already have lots of money? Particularly since that money would be worthless once everyone had lots of it?

1. flash91 on April 23rd, 2007 at
To jf: “terrorism … a result of poverty and injusticies”

have you lost the common sense to know that this is a sheer stupidity, a consequence of your feeling superiour to those “poor” islamists, to think that? Is it not stupid to deny them having convictions? Stronger even than you hold? Can you not understand that they might have a set of convictions radically different from yours, but convictions strong and staunch nevertheless? Their convictions of course stem from the common themes in their socium - the culture of honor/shame, of domination/submission, master/slave type of culture. Poverty is just a consequence of their warped socio-psychology, along with outwardly hate and scapegoating (hence the intense Jew-hatred). _Think_ about that.

2. Will Ness on April 23rd, 2007 at
Terrorism, political struggles, and pretty much all the crap we put up with in the world is a result of poverty and injustices to the poor. Those willing to strap bombs to themselves in the name of Allah have lost the common sense to know that you will not please whatever god you praise by killing others.

These ideas were put into their heads by people recruited by wealthy organizations (such as AlQUeda) and take advantage of the poor innocent people who have no sense of self-worth. If everybody had what they needed there wouldn’t be any of this. I can guarantee if little Patty Anderson in Toledo, OH could video chat with little Osama Haikl in Beirut, Lebanon, the last thing on their minds would be causing civil unrest.

Money these days is just a figure on a banks computer. FUck it let’s plump up everybody’s bank accounts and lower prices. People can remodel their homes, take vacations, do all the things that we as humans should do rather than bust our asses working and neglecting our families.

Governments abroad need to spread the wealth. However they are run by greedy people that create an unruly amount of debt in their countries and allow its people to suffer.

When do you hear about mass murders, or civil unrest in Amsterdam? They have legal prostitution, and legal drugs. They remain politically neutral. why can’t society as a whole be like Amsterdam.

Why do I owe 120,000 to financial institutions for my educational loans? give me a break, let’s move our focus from money to living.

3. jf on April 21st, 2007 at
They don’t have to be the same thing to partner against us. We were not similar at all to the Soviets during WW2 and we did just fine as allies. Until the war was over and the greater threat was killed. Then we went after each other.

Why is it that anyone who questions my assumption that Islam itself is evil immediately defaults to I must want to kill all Muslims? We didn’t kill all the Nazis, nor all the Communists, nor all of whatever it was we were fighting. We killed the ones who wanted to fight…mercilessly.

4. Pierre on September 14th, 2006 at
I don’t think Islam and communism are nowhere the same thing. It is islamo-facist that make up the reason we are fighting. You can’t go around killing everyone who is muslim; that makes up nearly 25 percent of the planet. Even if we had to, there is no way of actually killing 1.5 billion people and feeling good about yourself any day after that.

5. jim on September 14th, 2006 at