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Fighting terror with a Law Enforcement Model…who knew we got stupid again?

Here we are again with the FBI trying to fit a law enforcement model over a terror war. In New Jersey the FBI admits that they know of 4 other “accomplices” who were seen in the company of the 6 already arrested but that they don’t have enough evidence to arrest them. Haven’t we been here before?

So then are we at war or are we engaged in a massive law enforcement operation against those Muslims who are doing their best to duplicate 9/11’s death toll? Did we or did we not learn any lessons from the debacle of having Moussaoui in our hands with the evidence that would have allowed us to stop 9/11? Are we still trying to fit a law enforcement model of operation over a war? Remember we had Moussaoui’s laptop computer in hand and that the evidence inside of that laptop would have given us enough to stop 9/11 but oops in a Law Enforcement model you are not allowed to look into that laptop. Take a peek at Moussaoui in the run up to 9/11, take note since we will be comparing the performance of the Government with the NJ Terrorists. (Hat tip to Cooperative Research )

  • Immediately after learning of Zacarias Moussaoui’s suspicious behavior, Minneapolis FBI agent Harry Samit, one of the agents who arrests Moussaoui (see August 15, 2001 ), suspects he is preparing to hijack an airliner. He writes to a colleague, “That’s pretty ominous and obviously suggests some sort of hijacking plan.” [St. Paul Pioneer Press, 4/4/2006 ] Interviews with Moussaoui after his arrest will reinforce the Minneapolis FBI’s suspicions that he is involved in a wider terrorist plot against airliners. And after interviewing Moussaoui’s associate Hussein al-Attas as well (see August 16, 2001 ), Samit is unequivocally “convinced… a hundred percent that Moussaoui [is] a bad actor, [is] probably a professional mujaheddin and this [is] not a joyride, that he [is] completely bent on the use of this aircraft for destructive purposes.”
  • When Moussaoui is asked about his $32,000 bank balance, he initially says it is his savings, but then admits it was given to him by friends and associates, but he cannot remember their names;
  • Moussaoui’s passport, which indicates he spent two months in Pakistan shortly before arriving in the US, is new and he tells the FBI his old one was destroyed in the washing machine, which the agents know is a common lie for international criminals. 
  • When Samit asks Moussaoui about his trips to Pakistan and tells Moussaoui his story does not add up and they are suspicious, Moussaoui requests an attorney and the interview ends. [US District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, Alexandria Division, 3/9/2006 ]
  • Moussaoui’s associate Hussein al-Attas is also interviewed around this time and makes several statements indicating Moussaoui may be linked with a militant group.
  • August 24, 2001: FBI Agent Tells CIA ‘No Indication’ Moussaoui Is Planning Nefarious Activity, Despite Knowing Evidence Otherwise  Mike Maltbie, a supervisory special agent with the Radical Fundamentalist Unit at FBI headquarters, writes to a CIA manager stationed with the FBI as a consultant about the case of Zacarias Moussaoui and Hussein al-Attas. He tells the manager what actions the FBI has taken on the case and concludes by saying, “Please bear in mind that there is no indication that either of these two had plans for nefarious activity as was apparently indicated in an earlier communication.” The word “no” is underlined. [US Department of Justice, 11/2004, pp. 151 ] However, the FBI’s field office in Minneapolis suspects Moussaoui is part of a wider plot to hijack airliners and Maltbie is aware of their concerns.
  • In the wake of the French intelligence report (see August 22, 2001 ) on Zacarias Moussaoui, FBI agents in Minneapolis, Minnesota, are “in a frenzy” and “absolutely convinced he [is] planning to do something with a plane.” Agent Greg Jones tells FBI headquarters that Moussaoui might “fly something into the World Trade Center.” [Newsweek, 5/20/2002 ; US Department of Justice, 11/2004, pp. 153 ] Minneapolis FBI agents become “desperate to search the computer lap top” and “conduct a more thorough search of his personal effects,” especially since Moussaoui acted as if he was hiding something important in the laptop when arrested. [Time, 5/21/2002; Time, 5/27/2002] As the Radical Fundamentalist Unit (RFU) at FBI headquarters has already blocked an application for a criminal warrant (see August 21, 2001), the FBI’s Minneapolis field office must apply for one under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA).
  • Minneapolis agent Harry Samit completes an application for a warrant to search Moussaoui’s belongings on August 25. To obtain the warrant, he has to show there is probable cause to believe Moussaoui is an agent of a foreign power. The memo states that Moussaoui recruited a fighter for a particular Chechen rebel group connected to al-Qaeda, so he is connected to al-Qaeda through the Chechens. However, the RFU at FBI headquarters believes that the Chechen rebels should not be described as a foreign power and that the link between the Chechens and bin Laden is not strong enough. [US Department of Justice, 11/2004, pp. 128-132 ; US Department of Justice, 3/1/2006 pdf file] However, earlier in 2001 the FBI had received information indicating that this Chechen group and bin Laden were planning to attack US interests (see Before April 13, 2001 ). Minneapolis FBI agent Coleen Rowley later sums up how the Minneapolis agents feel at this point, when she says FBI headquarters “almost inexplicably, throw up roadblocks” and undermine their efforts. Headquarters personnel bring up “almost ridiculous questions in their apparent efforts to undermine the probable cause.”

 According to the Justice department:

Our review found significant deficiencies in the FBI’s handling of intelligence information relating to the September 11 attacks. Shortly after the attacks, the FBI indicated that it did not have any information warning of the attacks. However, information was soon discovered that had been in the possession of the FBI and the Intelligence Community before September 11 that related to the hijacking of airplanes by extremists or that involved the terrorists who committed the September 11 attacks.

So then are we right back where we started from when we are NOT arresting folks we know have associated with terrorists? Sorry but if you see a video with a group of men shouting Allah Akbar and firing AK-47’s together that is enough evidence in a war zone to hold them for questioning.

A DVD showing 10 radicals firing assault rifles and calling for jihad spurred the federal investigation that culminated in six arrests this week in connection with a planned terrorist attack on Fort Dix, N.J. But what about the other four?

“We know where they are and the investigation continues,” Jerri Williams, a special agent with the Federal Bureau of Investigation, told Cybercast News Service. “However, at this time we do not have evidence that would link them directly to the [Fort Dix] plot. We are aware of their participation in the firearms training but the investigation to date does not provide us evidence to charge them.”

Well gosh they know where they are and the investigation continues…HOLY SMOKES. We are supposed to be comforted by the fact that the FBI KNOWS where they are? Hell they knew where Moussaoui was 8/2001 and that didn’t do us a bit of good. The FBI has turned into the Keystone Kops. In 1993 they knew where the second most important person, Abdul Rahman Yasin , in the plot to drop one WTC into the other with a truck bomb that ultimately blew out 6 floors of reinforced concrete, was because they interviewed him. Then they let him go and he went straight to Iraq but hey now they have a cute little WANTED POSTER for him so I guess they lost track of him. Ooops yea I know Saddam had NOTHING  to do with terror. 

Can someone get the Government to alert us in regards to their attitude towards those who want to murder us? Is this a war or a law enforcement operation? We have heard a lot of criticism of the Clinton Administrations feeble attempts to prosecute folks who were at war with us. Is the Bush Administration any different? More to the point is this how the last President to successfully win a war for the United States would have acted? Can anyone imagine President Roosevelt being so concerned about the rights of those who plot mayhem?

And finally please do not at the end of the day, when we finally do arrest these last 4 of the 10 terrorists tell me they are foreign nationals here illegally, that will really piss me off.

Link to FBI Knows Identity of Four Other NJ Jihadists — 05/10/2007  

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  1. Is it Bosnia time *again*? Had to look into that the last time we had an individual in the US that had no good intentions, so I started with Iranian influence in Bosnia. Now a fun thing happens when you look at the lovely Clinton period in Bosnia, you find links to Albania. You also find links to Hezbollah, al Qaeda, Islamic Jihad and GIA from Algeria. For fun and frivolity we get the #2 man in the InterPol’s Criminal Intelligence Directorate making direct links between bin Laden and GIA and also noting the interconnectivity of Eastern European and Russian Mafias, Sicilian Mafia and cooperation with other non-Islamic terrorist organizations like FARC. He traces direct lines from Bosnia to Hezbollah in S. America via this network.

    Taking it up from the US side, knowning that terrorist organizations now cooperate with international organized crime, we can start seeing Hezbollah operatives in the US utilizing that very same internetwork to fund operations here, which I look at in Follow the money…where?. The crux of the matter is even with splendid cooperation between *all* Federal agencies involved in this sort of thing, it is this very same group of agencies that have not been able to stop the theft of cars in the US being shipped *whole* to al Qaeda in Iraq. I find it hard to believe that a money trail slipping through formal, informal and criminal networks will be *easier* to trace than WHOLE CARS stolen from the US and showing up with AQI.

    We have got to stop thinking of terrorism as mere civil crime as it utilizes such but adheres to no standards, no international agreements and breaks with such things as the Universal Declaration on Human Rights and the Geneva Conventions as signed onto by the US. These are not civil crimes: they are War Crimes.

    2. ajacksonian on May 14th, 2007 at
  2. Petraeus’s letter indicates that we are going to lose this war regardless of the amount of troops or the amount of time we are there.

    So, since as Petraeus’s letter indicates, defeat is certain, I am forced to say - Bring our Troops Home Now. If the government isn’t going to let them win, then keeping them out there spilling their blood is tantamount to the Bush Administration murdering them.

    Please understand, I am a conservative, but after seeing all the soldiers that Bush has arrested for doing their jobs, I can’t be a Bush-bot. Fight to win or don’t fight at all. There is no other option.

    3. Steve on May 13th, 2007 at

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