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Republicans to base…FU! Base to Republicans…FU right back! Immigration Bill knife in the back of base. Billary to be President..what’s the diff?

Well isn’t this cheery news. This means we will be seeing Billary in office in 2008 because there just isn’t anyway that the base is going to turn out after this knife in the back by the Republicans. Why turn out when the results for the most important items simply won’t change that much no matter who we put into the Whitehouse?

  • Defense spending has stayed at the same level it was when Clinton was in office. He had the excuse of no war and a hostile Congress. What was Bush’s excuse? He had a war and Republicans in both Houses for most of the time and Defense spending stayed at 3.6% of GDP. It got lower one year under Clinton.
  • Big Government Programs…hmm lets see No Child Left Behind BOONDOGGLE after all Kennedy was involved in it. Then we have Prescription Drug benefit…BOONDOGGLE…
  • Immigration? Hell it is entirely possible that a Democrat might actually be more prone to enforcement than Bush.

The Republicans can kiss my ass in regards to money to fund this idiocy.

If you are clear-eyed about this immigration proposal you can see immediately that it is the worst sort of demagoguery to claim that you are helping the illegal’s. Consider for a moment exactly how the illegals have been doing those jobs that Americans won’t do.

  1. Undercut pay since they are off the books. Lower costs to employers
  2. Since they are unlikely to report safety violations for fear of being deported working conditions can be appalling. Lower costs for employers
  3. Since they are off the books no need for employers to pay various taxes and insurance. Lower costs for employers.
  4. Since they are unlikely to report unsafe housing conditions housing can be appalling. Lower costs for landlords.

These are just a few of the ways that illegals gain market share over legal workers when both are competing for spots in the job market. But guess what? If we legalize them then all of a sudden they have priced themselves out of the market and the demand goes up for 20 million more illegals. Because all of a sudden you cannot underpay, overwork, badly house and poorly insure the current crop of illegals since they are now on the books. Ooops. All of a sudden they are a bunch of lazy Americans who won’t do the work that illegals will do.

You do realize that the Republican Elite understand this equation right? The Democrats understand it as well. They know full well what will happen. They are making it happen.

Exactly why should I continue to support the Republican Party? With nitwits like Ron Paul  , John McCain, George W Bush and Hagel exactly what is it about the Republicans that makes them special? They are internationalists, ok except Ron Paul who is simply crazy, and I don’t support the idea that all people should be allowed into this country willy nilly. Mexico is a mess. Why are we allowing the very people whose country is such a mess to come into this country and make this country a mess? Because some meat packers, contractors, and various textile mills “need them”? Bullshit.

Link to FOXNews.com - Senators, White House Reach Agreement on Immigration - Politics | Republican Party | Democratic Party | Political Spectrum  

More at JawaReport  Â Michelle Malkin  Â baldilocks is not thrilled  and looking for a deeper meaning

More posts on Immigration:

Mickey Kaus makes some good points on immigration but…  

Mickey, the question is, are we suffering a labor shortage or are we suffering a shortage of people who will accept below minimum wage. Are we suffering a labor shortage or are we suffering a shortage of people who will work without Workman’s comp and other workplace niceties that legal workers must by law be provided? Are businesses like Tyson foods and Mohawk Carpet employing illegals simply because no one will work for them or because no one can work for them on their terms aside from illegals? What will businesses like Tyson Foods  and Mohawk Industries   do after the current crop of illegals are brought forward into the system and those businesses are forced to treat them as legal employees with all the attendant costs?

Is it possible that these companies having developed this addiction for employees who cannot run to the E.O.C. and who cost so much less to employ through direct costs of wages and insurance and indirect costs in the form of workplace safety, will suddenly see the light and hire legal employees?

Additionally if those illegal employees see their advantage in the workplace over American workers vanishing should they become legal will they desire to price themselves out of the market just for the privilege of paying taxes?

Enforcement in the workplace and a border fence must come first. Real enforcement carried out over the course of years against multiple companies where executives find themselves in jail for violating all sorts of labor laws. That might go a long way to assuring the American public that this latest amnesty program isn’t merely some smoke and mirrors dog and pony show by politicians looking out for the most important person in the world, themselves.

By Hook or Crook The Senates Comprehensive Illegal Importation Bill.  

Welcome to the Party Captain! President, McCain and Kennedy in cahoots…truth suffers.  Â snippet:

This President and the Republican “Front Runner” Senator “Grandstand” McCain are rapidly approaching a stage where allowing Democrats into power might actually be a better choice. At least then we can spend our time forcing them to act like adults. At least then all Republicans will be rightly suspicious of the motives of a Democratic President or Senate or some combination thereof.

Vicente Fox telling us how to run our country some more.  
So then if our pack of liars in the Government are so intent on interior enforcement here is a candidate for investigation, G&G Orchards. But we all know its all Kabuki Theatre  in Washington DC and that there is no stomach for the sort of enforcement that would make a difference

On Immigration, are we better off now than when we had Democrats in office?  

This is pretty standard stuff, we are all immigrants etc etc, but is it exceptional? Since this is the common refrain from those who advocate nearly unlimited immigration, exactly which nations in the world were NOT a products of immigration? None. All nations are nations of immigrants. Some nations because of unfettered immigration manage to change into something the original inhabitants would never have dreamed of agreeing to had they the chance to choose.

Several examples spring to mind, one that might be dear to liberals, the American Indian. Wonder about the Indians who broke bread with us on Thanksgiving day, would they be so welcoming if they could have seen the future? What about the Britons, did they think that the immigration of the Romans was a good thing? Or later, perhaps the Britons agreed with the changes the Normans brought to the Island. Maybe they did want to wait 300 years before the Royal Court Proceedings were again conducted in English. Unfettered immigration doesn’t look so peachy now and illegal immigration is exactly that unfettered. For an unvarnished take down of those who make that pious claim that we are a nation of immigrants please take a look at this article Time to Rethink Immigration? by Peter Brimelowfrom National Review, June 22, 1992 reprinted at VDARE. 2

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3 Comments so far (Add 1 more)

  1. Thanks for noticing me!

    I wrote a longer comment on this subject at Captain’s Quarters today, too:
    http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/010181.php#comments
    I think I am about #21 on the comments list.

    I would really enjoy reading something on this subject by someone other than myself. Pierre, you so often express exactly what I think with just the right amount of outrage!

    1. pa on June 8th, 2007 at
  2. Thank you for the comment…I am trying to get enough time to write. Right now I nuked my site a few days ago and am trying to slowly build it back up. Foolishly avoided backing it up.

    2. Pierre Legrand on June 7th, 2007 at
  3. Excellent. The reason businesses want illegal immigration is that they are unable or unwilling to comply with labor laws. I fully agree that government’s reach into private business is onerous, intrusive, costly, and often unconstitutional. The solution is not to import an underclass that will work off the books. The true solution is to bring government regulation of business under control, so that hiring legal Americans is, as it once was in the not-so-distant past, economically feasible for business owners. How come we never hear anybody talking about that? By “anybody,” I don’t mean politicians; they would never consider any solution that would reduce their power. But how about the rest of us? Why are we seeing more people fighting for reductions in business regulation?
    Pierre: If you agree, I would love to read what you can do with this subject!

    A second major component of a true solution would be to reform Mexico, but we don’t hear ANY politicians advocating for that. You would think that Mexicans themselves would be agitating for a better homeland.

    3. pa on June 6th, 2007 at

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